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Offline Nemo

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One from the other
« on: January 20, 2009, 07:12:55 PM »
Do you know how to tell the difference between male and female bluegills without filleting them.

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One from the other
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Offline billbo

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 07:17:35 PM »
Usually go by the one wearing lipstick.

Offline HenryDavid

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 07:37:37 PM »
The females tend to complain too much  >:(

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 07:41:15 PM »
What about the transsexuals ??? They also wear lipstick..Right?

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Offline HenryDavid

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2009, 07:56:22 PM »
Cliff googled it,.. I guess it's okay to post this thread from "Pond Boss"
http://www.pondboss.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Forum=7&topic=000214&Number=0&site_id=1#import

Some nice photos there anyway, although it leaves me still bewildered  :-\

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2009, 09:10:49 PM »
name that sex? 

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 10:13:45 PM »
1st one - male,  2nd one - female, just a guess.

Read some interesting info. on the subject,

From FishingStringer.com -
"When trying to separate the male bluegills from the female bluegills, one may find that looking at their underside will help with this type of gender identification. Male bluegills have more of an orange underside whereas that area on a female bluegill is mostly yellowish in color."

From Answers.com -
"Females may also spawn with smaller males known as satellite and sneaker males, which take on the female coloration and fool nesting males into allowing them to approach and mate with females coming to the nest. Sneaker males may also lie in ambush in vegetation near a nesting male's site, wait for females to arrive, then quickly swim through the nest site, ejecting milt."

That last description sounds like some guys I know.  ::)

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 09:27:27 AM »
Correct... It's all in the color. Males usually have More of an orange color and the females are yellowish. Gills are the only pan fish that you can distinguish one from the other by color. Possibly the only freshwater fish that I know of. If somebody else knows of another please post.           Now I have a Question: I fish a pond  where I let All my females go and only keep the nicer males. Is this something that is practical as far as keeping a good population of Bluegill..  Thanks Nemo

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 09:43:59 AM »
wow, great question & answers.
Any selective harvest is key.
I think it has to do with the size too, keeping only in a slot of your choice.
But, keeping males and letting females go that is top notice, but keep an eye on the ratios that you are catching them at.  !<>!
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Re: One from the other
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 09:59:46 AM »
Yeah, Maybe were on to something here. There might be better lakes and ponds with bigger and better populations of gills. Just like deer hunting If you kill all the doe your deer population is nothing. We all know how that goes..How many deer have you seen this year :P

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2013, 10:03:40 PM »
I read the earlier question re letting the bigger females go, and that is usually a good practice IMO. However you should also let some of the largest males go to contribute to the gene pool. This is just my opinion, but I have also heard similar from people with more scientific knowledge than me. The old saying goes: if you want more big fish, let more big fish go.

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2013, 08:59:57 AM »
 This is where I like the "slot size" limits that many states use. Not sure if anyone has them for panfish but many states have them on gamefish. Say you can keep 50 sunfish total -- Out of that total you can keep 0-5"  or bigger than 7"(only 1 - 9" or bigger "trophy"). Protecting the 5-7" fish to spawn for a year or two and also protecting the "trophy" class.
 
 You would need different limits on perch + crappie ..... say 0-8" or bigger than 12" (1 trophy 14+")

 *** note I'm not a fish biologist so my plan would need tweaked by the "experts"***
Yes I know that this creates more work for the PFBC (which the administration seems to be shying away from for the last 10yrs or so)

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Re: One from the other
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 08:42:21 PM »
Ok, I posted an article a little while ago on selective harvest. It suggested letting large males go might be most important since they chase the smaller ones off the nests. Makes sense though since they have the genes you are looking for to produce the bigger fish.

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